Walther Pp Serial Numbers Chart
Hey everyone, My dad told me about my Grandfather's walther that he brought back from WWII that he took off a German soldier. I was wondering if there are some good databases out there where I could look up the history of the pistol? Any info is appreciated. All I know is that the slide is longer than the modern day PPK and the caliber was not printed anywhere on the pistol itself. Hopefully one day I'll get to see and shoot it.
Quick question on older firearms. Is modern day ammo safe to use in them and for the PP/PPK series of pistols, do current magazines fit in them? Thanks again. Click to expand.You had better check your soures again. Both the PP u.
Oct 12, 2007 walther pp serial number chart, walther pp serial number date. Walther pp serial numbers, walther pp serial numbers dates, walther ppk serial number chart, walther ppq manufacture date, walther serial number chart, walther serial number lookup. Click on a term to search for related topics. Thread Tools. Dec 5, 2014 - There has always been much speculation over the years as to why some Walther PP and PPK pistols had unusual or additional serial number.
PPK went into the 900,000 range and then, in about 1940, started over with a letter (P or K) after the ser nr. By wars end they were, I believe, again in the 400,000 range with the letter. You left out one caliber for both pistols - 6.35mm (25acp). Many more 7.65 (32acp) pistols were made than the other 3 calibers combined. Thus the 7.65 PP is not at all rare, or even uncommon. The PPK is a bit more so, but still not rare.
Click to expand.My GF, a French model whom I met on the internet, assures me that they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true. [grin] Respectfully, Sarge. My source was posted, take it for what it is. Do you have a source for your numbers or are you extrapolating(guessing) based on serial number ranges? I don't know how one can base production numbers of the PP based on serial numbers considering where the numbering started in 1929 at serial number 750000, restarted at 10000 in 1938 and that the numbering for the PP and PPK were intermingled up to 1938. I thought the OP was speaking of 'Nazi Walther PPs', but even in the same source there are several different numbers: My source for the following is 'The Walther Handgun Story' by Gene Gangarosa: When Walther began its production, PP serial number started at 750000.
In 1938 when they reached one million, they restarted numbering at 10000 P and reached 396000 P by the end of the war. Total PP production from 1929 to 1945 is estimated at half a million. One expert on German pistol use has estimated that the German Armed forces may have procured as many as 84000(.hmmmm, this number sounds familiar) Model PPs during the war. By war's end approx, 200000 Model PPs has seen service in German Police and military service since 1929. Also from the same author: Walther's production of the.25 caliber PP manufactured only in 1929 and 1930 was simply a test to see whether the gun would sell in this caliber. The.25 proved to be unpopular and Walther hurriedly ceased production. Rather than make a separate die to mark the slide on the.25 caliber models a standard.32 caliber die with the caliber marking left off.
The '6.35mm' designation engraved by hand. The.25 caliber PP magazine was a gutted.32 magazine with a model 8 magazine inserted.
So again, all these production numbers are speculative; but, your number based on serial number range and assuming all PP production was only for the German Armed forces is way too high and not really related to the original discussion. My source for much of my info on PP u. PPK pistols is James Rankins 3 vol set on Walther pistols. I think he gives a lot more detail than Gangarosa. In fact I don't find a copy of his book in my library for some reason. Well I had thought it was the PPK that started at 750K, but even if they both did there is still 250K+ pistols before the 2nd series = letter after the nr, started since PPKs are known into the 1 Million range.
Then from the 100,000 P u. K 2nd series they went into the high 400K range which is another 300,000+ pistols for a total of 750,000+ pistols of both types. I made no claim that all production of either pistol was strictly for the military. There were undoubtably more made for civilian and paramilitary sales than for the military.