Deutsche Werke Ortgies Serial Numbers
How can the answer be improved? Ortgies Pocket Semi-Auto Pistol. Sort by: 59 Item(s) of 3. Ortgies Pocket Semi Auto Pistol Schematic W/ Parts List.
According to Still's 'Axis Pistols' the Ortgies (What your pistol is known as. Ortgies was the designer; Deutsche Werke was the 2nd of two manufacturers.) were never used by the police and military in Nazi Germany.
In fact, the little autos were out of production when Hitler came to power. But they were imported in large numbers into the U.S. In the 1920's and early 30's.
I have three of these; in my local market --- which runs as high as anywhere --- these little autos run in the $200-275 range in good to excellent shape, less if in poorer shape.
Thank does this clip or holster add value and is this seem to be In great shape I have uploaded some photos.of everything and on the left side of the slide it reads Deutsche Werke the a circle with a D and then Werk Erfurt.I belive it is a 1921 first generation am I right? Right after ww1 but was this posssibly a used in ww2 at all maybe a officer.I was told it was brought home as a war suevineer it has the crown with the N makers marks.that is not a military issued mark and what does the miltary issued ones go for and what's the difference if this is a commercial gun what does that mean.sorry I'm new. Heinrich Ortgies lived in Liege Belgium for many years and pistol patents (Br pats 1, 1, and 1) were granted to him circa 1916-1918.
After WW1 he returned to Germany and set up in business manufacturing Ortgies pistols in 7.65 mm calibre. Over 10000 pistols were manufactured by 1921 when he died and Deutsche Werke AG purchased the patents and machinery. 7.65 mm pistols were manufactured 1920 to 1928.
9 mm short pistols were manufactured from 1922 to 1926. 6.35 mm pistols were manufactured from 1921 to 1928.
The pistols were very well designed and made. No screws were used in the assembly, the parts lock together. The pistols incorporated no screws and even the grip panels had spring clips. There are some examples with screws holding the grip panels from Deutsche Werke. The Ortgies pistols are striker fired and have a grip safety which blocks the sear-bar.
Some weapons have a button safety as well. This was a made to order feature and scarce. The button safety only blocks the grip safety from disengaging. In the up position the button safety engages the grip safety.
These pistols are very collectable due to their good quality and excellent design, engineering and finish. 435000 pistols were manufactured of all the different types and calibres after World War 1. 185000 were 6.35 mms and 250000 were 7.65 mm and 9 mm combined. ‘Price guide for collector handguns’ - R H Balderson p318, ‘The G/D modern gun values’ p123, ‘Pistols of the world’ by Hogg and Weeks p81/176,). I have a ortgies 9mm.
The slide does not fully close on a.380 round. I just took it to a gunsmith who thinks back when the gun was made, for whatever reason.380 rounds weren't the same size as today's.
He said he could bore the barrel down 5000ths of an inch and the gun could be fired. He said he's impressed at the condition and I should have no other issues. I want to keep and use the gun. Does this sound reasonable to you. It's the same condition as the other photos I've seen of the.32s Has anyone heard of issues with cartridge size.
Will this modification destroy the value? Robert F: The.380 ACP (9 mm Kurz or 9 X 17 mm) cartridge has had the same dimensions since it was introduced in 1908. Do not let your local gun butcher bore out the barrel. There is an outside possibility that a cartridge case had a complete separation and the forward part of the cartridge case is stuck in the chamber. If this is the case, it can be removed by a competent gunsmith with out ruining the barrel. It is also possible that some other obstruction is blocking the chamber.